Racin' & Different Stuff:

                                      By Tom Avenengo

                                         Volume # 158

                                                   09/26/2013

 

 

Just remember, when this disaster of a health care bill gets passed, and the shit hits the fan because of cost and who will and will not be covered, who can and can’t afford it, remember who voted for it, and don’t forget when that idiot comes up for re-election, make sure you pull the correct lever!

 

 

Oh, and any idea as to where some 67 million as vanished from the IRS’s Obamacare “Slush fund”?  Hmmm?  Uh huh – and the IRS will be in charge of our health care?   God help us!

 

Racin’ & short’ stuff:

 

Last week, just prior to sending my column out, there was a problem with either my computer and/or the Internet.  In my attempt to get the column out, I neglected to put the weekly photo in.  Sorry about that!

 

And since last weeks column, this writer has aged another year.  And to be honest, I’m not very happy as to what’s been happening with racing lately, not only in general, but locally, too.  It seems that honesty has been replaced by cheaters in most all forms of racing.  One of the biggest jokes over these past couple of years is this so called “Crate” class in dirt modified racing.  It’s even being said that at one track, “tech” has been told not to tech top five in the class.  I’ve seen, to my own satisfaction, that, yes cheating is going on.  What with all engines supposedly being basically equal, all chassis being basically the same, track conditions the same for all the drivers, how can a certain few cars be so much more dominant?  Well, I have my thoughts, that’s for sure.

 

It’s almost to the point where I’m about to take a break from these columns – maybe stop for a while – and maybe wait until we get back from Florida – maybe next March, or so.  And having some “family issues” pop up, hasn’t helped, either.

 

 

From last weeks column:

 

This weeks quiz:

 

Who was the first woman to turn laps in an Indy car on the Indianapolis Speedway?  Hint:  She did it in a Novi.  Think you know?  Send your answers to me at:  ygordad@yahoo.com

 

Guess what?  I received exactly zero responses on the above.  Makes me wonder – am I wasting my time – and yours, too?  Just another reason for me to maybe take a break. 

 

Anyone want to try this week?

 

 

NAPA's "No No" Reminds Us "Spingate" Still Spinning Out Of Control

 

Thomas Bowles · Thursday September 19, 2013

 

http://www.frontstretch.com/tbowles/43975/

 

 

 

So you think the Formula Libre race at Lime Rock in 1959, the one that was won by Rodger Ward is the only Formula Libre race run in the US?  Got a little news for ya!  There were three of them at Watkins Glen  - 1958, 59 & 60.  Yes, there were others, too!

 

http://www.barcboys.com/GlenFormLibre1958.htm

 

http://www.barcboys.com/GlenFormLibre1959.htm

 

http://www.barcboys.com/GlenFormLibre1960Pg2.htm

 

 

 

 

Brett Deyo – It seems that Mr. Deyo has been doing exceptionally well in promoting racing events over these last couple of years.  Most every event he has promoted has been a big winner.  Now, there are some that seem to think that if Brett were to get into promoting OCFS, it might help the track.  Maybe it would – IF he were to do so.  Personally, I don’t think that he has much interest in the old gal, promoting wise, although there are people saying he’s been there these past few race meets and was seen taking photos.  Who knows, for sure?  Sure he has connections, and just maybe he does have something in mind for OCFS – but taking it on for a season?  I doubt that.  He’s been too successful with the events he’s been promoting, so why change?

 

 

 

 

A.J. Foyt:

 

I guess I could consider myself as being one of those lucky enough to have seen one of the greatest drivers ever, race - in person.  A.J. was a “racers” racer, that’s for sure.  If it had four wheels and an engine, he’d somehow get in and race it.

 

I’ve had something about A.J. in my computer for a while, and I thought that this weeks column might be a good one to put it out there for folks to read.  On top of that, another article on him came out in the NSSN, so I’m adding the link to that, also.

 

 

A.J. Foyt Talks of the Accident

 

In his 1983 book "A.J.", Foyt recalls the first Indy 500 he competed in - 1958. He spoke about how the only veterans that would help him were Pat O'Connor and Tony Bettenhausen. O'Connor gave him tips and showed him the best lines around the speedway. Here is an excerpt about the 1st-lap accident:

 

"They got to the turn. Rathmann backed off slightly, and Elisian, who was in the groove - that's the only reason Rathmann backed off; there was no place for him to go- well, Elisian was in too deep and too fast. I saw Elisian's car bobble slightly. That's the sign of trouble at Indy. There just wasn't time to turn the car. He slammed into Rathmann and the force took both cars into the concrete retainer wall. Rathmann's car was chopped in two; parts from Elisian's car were sailing everywhere.

I saw Reece slow down, and then Bob Veith hit him, sending Reece's car directly into the path of Pat O'Connor. Son of a *****. O'Connor's car went up and over and sailed fifty feet in the air, and when it hit the track on the other side, upside down, it burst into flames.

Everything was happening so fast. But I could see everything, and I remembered everything I had heard in the driver's meeting. 'If you see a car spinning on the start, look for a place to go,' they had said. 'Be careful of the first lap,' they had said. 'Watch the lead cars," they had said. I did all of those things, and it was happening. Just like they had said.

I thought, Oh, ****, I've come this far and it's all over. I didn't even make a lap.

I looked for a place to go. There were cars sideways in front of me, so I spun my car to keep from hitting them. There was a hole and I sort of pulled myself up straight in the seat, trying to make myself as thin as I could. Somehow I thought it might make the car thinner. While I was sideways, I saw a car go up over another car and flip right out of the Speedway. I found out later it was Jerry Unser going over Paul Goldsmith.

My car was still sliding through the hole between Johnny Parsons and Tony Bettenhausen. I got through without touching a thing. The slide had scrubbed off a lot of my speed, like I hoped it would. The car was still spinning to the right, so I turned the wheel right and it started to straighten out. And then I saw it. A clear track ahead.

I had made it.

The yellow lights were all on, of course, so I kept it at about 100 miles an hour. When I got back around to the crash scene, I counted fifteen cars that were involved. They were sending traffic above, below, through, anyplace you could go without hitting a car or a broken part or a tow truck or an ambulance.

O'Connor's car was still burning.

I tried hard not to look at it. ******* it, I didn't want to look at it.

The next time I came around, the fire was out, but it was still smoking. I looked. ****. Why did I look? Pat's arm was frozen in midair. Everything was black. His car, his helmet, his uniform, everything.

Son of a *****, I thought. I wasn't sure I was tough enough for Indianapolis. It was going to take some thinking.

It took them twenty laps under caution to clear the debris from the track. Long after his car and his body were taken away, I could see Pat's arm sticking up in the air. I felt sick. When I came by the pits, I could see Ed Elisian sitting on the pit wall. His helmet was off and his head was in his hands.

I wondered how it could have happened. But I knew the answer just as well as any of the drivers. You race all month with a guy and you build up this rivalry. It almost becomes a hate. But it isn't. Only race drivers feel it. Maybe some people feel it on the highway. There are just some people who don't like to be passed. But in racing it builds up so much stronger. It becomes an obsession. I guess that's what happened to Elisian and Dick Rathmann. They just got overcome with the obsession to beat each other.

The rest of the race was hollow for me. I was running as hard as I could, but I wasn't comfortable. I was petrified, to tell you the truth. And I've never said that before. I ran hard; I just didn't feel like I had in other races. The spirit wasn't there."

"I vowed one thing when I left Indianapolis: I would never get close to any race driver again. And I've stuck to it. I've never run around at night with any of the other drivers. I've always been by myself. A lot of people think I'm stuck-up at times, but it's not true. It's a bad thing to see a driver get killed - real bad - but you just have to walk away from it and not let it play on your mind. You can't have something like that on your mind when you're out there going 180 miles an hour. I found that out."

 

 

And, from the NSSN:

 

Foyt On Life, Health And Racing

 

http://www.nationalspeedsportnews.com/indy/izod-indycar/foyt-on-life-health-on-racing/

 

 

 

 

From Facebookracin’ stuff:

 

Stuff that’s been posted about the “Eve of Destruction” night at OCFS, by both fans and drivers, along with more thoughts of the place, in general.

 

Note:  Drivers names have been deleted, where I feel it’s appropriate.

 

From Facebook on 9/22:

 

Last night becky n I ended up going to that circus of a show at Ocfs. As I stood in the infield and watched the trailer race I said in my mind "this poor old track". I tend to look at the big picture with everything and pay attention to every detail. With mixed emotion of what was taking place I thought back to the way things use to be from only stories I have heard. As I saw the amount of people in attendance,,, its a result of the entertainment they received out of that show which brought them there.

Visiting the track for 20 plus weeks in a row during the race season at Ocfs isn't too fun anymore personally. Every Saturday I attended a track with a three groups of people, friends,family and racing supporters (fans). In return of all the hard work during the week I get a track to race on that isn't too prepared. From the facility as a whole nothing is in any order for a true fan of our past time of racing to want to attend. I'm not just a driver I'm a fan of the sport, if this track is finished racing its a sad day but maybe there's more hope for the circus its made out to be.

 

I agree. I have been there each weekend since 1964 except for the years I was kart racing. I remember the glory days, the full grandstands and drive in. The good food and drinks. If I could only win power ball !! I could make it great again

 

They really need to do something there I been a fan for over 30 years and I think I been there maybe three times this year it just sucks its not that hard to figure out what the problem is

 

its a shame i only get to OC once a year and everytime i go it seems to be worse and place is definately falling apart

 

It's a true shame. Seeing the amount of people in the seats reminded me of being 4 and 5 years old when there was standing room only and turn 1 and 4 stands were filled every week. There were so many fans there on a normal Sat. All the concession stands were open and the parking lot where the eurlich building is now was full. And the car count was so high every class had consi's every week aND 4 to 8 cars didn't make the field. Sat w. Some old race fans last night and the size of the crowd made us all say exactly the same things you did.

 

Its sad! That place was a gold mine years ago. I remember being a kid and like others said if you werent there by 5 pm you were stuck having to stand for the night. It was always packed! Even the drive-in was packed with no parking available after 630. The attendance will continue to fall off and get worse if the fans dont feel like its a show worth paying to see. Which means that the people who are most responsible for that to happen are the track personnel, i.e. , promotions , track prep. Volunteers and Crew. Then it comes down to all the race teams. As a whole my opinion is that all the teams who speak negatively about a track/facility will always cause the fans to feel like they should go somewhere else to get their moneys worth.

 

Its up to the community to promote and speak positively about ocfs , NO MATTER WHAT!!! That includes teams, drivers, crew, family , track personell, volunteers and then maybe the promotor can do his job and actually start filling those stands up again! But without cooperation from everyone together working as a team its gonna be a lost cause....just my opinion. Thanks for listening!!

 

the stands are damn near empty not b/c of the drivers speaking the truth but bc the track is not maintained so the racing is no longer fun to watch, it must be beyond frustrating for the drivers, more than anyone else. They need to speak out! Well put ******* *****. The truth needs to be heard. The fans aren't going to stop coming b/c of what drivers say, the fans stop coming b/c the racing sucks b/c the track sucks.

 

Well put, and I can't see supporting a track that wont support my cause of being there. I want to put on a show! Maybe pass a few cars or get passed by some competition. If I ask a simple question of why no water is put down before the features and I get the response I have been given or talking to the track crew what they tell me... why am I even there? I may not have the answers to all the big time problems but I have common sense. This place has had plenty of chances and support through the years , its all in the infield and there's a second chance week to week when the show pulls in. The talent and the show are there, just as good as any tour driver and that's proven every ESW.

 

its a shame i only get to OC once a year and everytime i go it seems to be worse and place is definately falling apart

 

 need to start giving instead of taking. ...how come the car show isn't in the galleria

 

Twp words to save that place!!!!!!! Brett Deyo

 

 I doubt Deyo could do much for the old gal, either.

 

I disagree *** ******** he had proven to be the best promotions in Diet racing today and I think he had what it takes to put the right people in place and not only bring people but bring back 3 racing grooves for the best racing possible

 

I doubt Deyo even wants to get involved with OCFS.

 

Time will tell he's been there taking photos. ....

 

Brett Deyo for president! (Or at least promoter of OcFs)

 

Every time I watch Eve of Destruction I wonder which trailer is going to lose the piece of metal that somehow ends up in one of our tires every Eastern States.

 

Well written, and unfortunately true as can be.

 

NOT what it used to be !!!!

 

Its sad! That place was a gold mine years ago. I remember being a kid and like others said if you werent there by 5 pm you were stuck having to stand for the night. It was always packed! Even the drive-in was packed with no parking available after 630. The attendance will continue to fall off and get worse if the fans dont feel like its a show worth paying to see. Which means that the people who are most responsible for that to happen are the track personnel, i.e. , promotions , track prep. Volunteers and Crew. Then it comes down to all the race teams. As a whole my opinion is that all the teams who speak negatively about a track/facility will always cause the fans to feel like they should go somewhere else to get their moneys worth.

 

Its up to the community to promote and speak positively about ocfs , NO MATTER WHAT!!! That includes teams, drivers, crew, family , track personell, volunteers and then maybe the promotor can do his job and actually start filling those stands up again! But without cooperation from everyone together working as a team its gonna be a lost cause....just my opinion. Thanks for listening!!

 

*** ***** the stands are damn near empty not b/c of the drivers speaking the truth but bc the track is not maintained so the racing is no longer fun to watch, it must be beyond frustrating for the drivers, more than anyone else. They need to speak out! Well put ******* *****. The truth needs to be heard. The fans aren't going to stop coming b/c of what drivers say, the fans stop coming b/c the racing sucks b/c the track sucks.

 

Well put, and I can't see supporting a track that wont support my cause of being there. I want to put on a show! Maybe pass a few cars or get passed by some competition. If I ask a simple question of why no water is put down before the features and I get the response I have been given or talking to the track crew what they tell me... why am I even there? I may not have the answers to all the big time problems but I have common sense. This place has had plenty of chances and support through the years , its all in the infield and there's a second chance week to week when the show pulls in. The talent and the show are there, just as good as any tour driver and that's proven every ESW.

 

The bottom line is that everyone seems to always have the answer to all of a tracks problems....lol but we all know that all tracks have their problems or so the community says so anyways. But i think most of ocfs problems could be solved with fresh management and alot of positive promotion by the community.

 

Piss poor upper management ...that track and the fairgrounds could be a gold mine. Its a damn shame that the owners don't give a rats ass.

 

It's Sad I love the place I was there for the Golden Years was just awesome But sometimes u can't fix something that doesn't want to be fixed

 

 If the owner would put money back into the track instead of trying to be cheap it wouldn't be so bad. As far as promotions, sorry guys but a couple of season schedules at the local gas stations aren't cutting it. Also paying 5 bucks for a cheese burger doesn't help. That place still has potential, and it really is sad because I grew up at that place. I still remember going there every weekend with my grandparents to watch my dad, rus hughson,Eddie redner, joe Conklin, Barrett hill. I remember talking with Greg Morgan and my dad at the states a few years ago and they told me stories of how it was like that every Saturday night. It really is kind of depressing.

 

the place is going to he'll they need

to bring back the 358 small blocks back every Saturday night and make it a family place again then people would come back .ocfs is way to much for a family night out

 

Sorry to say this but the last 3 comments posted are exactly what i was talking about!! Preach positively and be humbled that theres still a track there and not a condo complex. It could be worse and it will get worse if people dont stop trashing the only track to race at for another 45 minutes. Theres always problems no matter where you go to race but if its not gonna be positively preached about then dont say it because your only hurting the sport as a whole!!!

 

We all know things could be better!!! So start making them better by promoting the track that you race at with positive words and actions! It takes a bunch of people to make a small difference and it takes one person bad mouthing it to ruin it!!

 

That track use to be beautiful!!! The fair ground also was keep so nice, when Mike Sr. was in control.....

 

We need new a new owner that's all and 358 back every week and have Brett deyo do a couple shows during the season.

 

way too much for a family night out? Not even close, New Eygpt here in NJ is $20 for a regular show. Not all that bad at orange county. I still enjoy going there. Has it changed, Yes but I still love the roar of the big blocks!

 

I've been going to the OCFS since I was like 10 years old and I'm now 60 years old, I worked on small blocks and modifieds for years they never listened to the fans or drivers and crews, it was about the almighty dollar and who could get to the bank first on monday morning, Robin Manus once told us the pits pay for everything anything outside the pits was gravy money so basically the racers and crews are putting a big chunk towards their own purse and now they've dropped the modified purse down and the still charge alot of money for entry and food and drink and the 31st lap you need to take out a loan to drink there anymore, they've taken to much out and not put enough back to bad for a track that was once one of the best 5/8 mile dirt tracks.

 

Don't take this the wrong way guys but let me give you some facts and figures the big block purse is 12,500 you got 17 - 20 cars that follow the leader and a handful of fans that come to watch this fiasco if you talk to the BB drivers the main thing you hear is there's 1 lane no passing the problem for no passing is in the drivers right foot the other night perrego anf the 9/11 car of brian smiths put on a hell of a show the BB feature on the same night and the same track was as exciting as watching ice melt. the only guys that are making money in BB is the engine builders because they all think they need more power meanwhile every one of them is breaking loose coming every turn there is way more fans that come to watch the other shows that only cost a small %of the BB show and it's a better show when we all were younger the racing was better and the track was the same. now the big thing is to get to start up front losers always have excuses.

 

My uncle drove at that track for years and it was in much better shape back then!!! They don't want to spend any money....

 

 if you're talking about the grounds i won't argue mike sr. was big on flowers but if you're talking about the track it still get 2 ton of calcium weekly and it has a lot less rocks the when your uncle raced there just ask **** he will tell you

 

maybe if they didn't treat the support classes worse than dog shit they would have a better car count!

 

******* you re. Dead. Right.If the Palmers ran this lce

 

Didnt intend to sound negative, just wanted to express what I see and open for opinions. I just can't get over how things have been there and ultimately its suppose to be a place that all our family and friends can go to and have a great time. It be nice to see an effort on there part, even if its knocking down an old building or just touching one up. I get out of the car and I tell myself I would not have showed up to watch that race...I say it a lot and I know everything can't be perfect but an effort should be made. The tracks been decent, but I'll ask about water on the track halfway through the season and its like a broken record at the end of the season. If the facilities can't get turned around due to money so be it but give me 110 percent so I can do my part every Saturday night.

 

Wow man I felt the same way

 

it used to be the place to be every sat. night. stands packed , drive in packed , but you cant leave everything the same it was and expect the same results. they def. need to step up and put some money in the place.

 

 the parking lot used to be packed with cars from N.J CONN. MASS. PA. gas was .60 a gal people can't afford to come. now if OCFS were the u.s. gov't yhey could just print more money but they have to do the best with what they have

 

Better shows would be done with going back to 3week handicapping ..... the fastest guys can pass (maybe not win) but it's allot more fun watching the fastest guys come from 16th and 18th from a fans point of view.....

 

Someone would need to buy the track and the fairgrounds. Otherwise you will never get maxwell out! Over priced food and drinks don't help.

 

100% agree **** ******..... That's already killed 3or4 possible deals in the past 5 or so years

 

no midweek shows are real bummer ! i love the place ! it just needs some tlc ! i agree with ***** in many ways

 

Well from my view we need to start getting the car count in all the classes back up.

People in the grandstand are typically connected with some car at the races, so more cars is more people. There are lots of things people can do on a Saturday night.

 

As for the quality of the racing, well I believe we need the 3 week money earned handicap lineups again for the heats and the feature.

This heads up stuff is boring! Not to mention makes it very difficult for a new guy and team to have any success!

I can hardly remember an exciting dash for cash, leader on the backstretch of the first lap is the winner

Has there ever been a pass in turn 3&4 of an elimination race?

A good race is not defined by the winner, it's the racing within the race and the side by side competition and not knowing what's going to unfold.

The handicapping system that has been used for the last 2 years has destroyed the car counts and will continue to do so if its not changed.

I will be honest I don't know if I would have been able to stick it out through my early years in the modified class if I had to start the features behind guys like Hearn Johnson Cozzy Horton Hoffman Heotzler ect on a regular basis. A new guy needs a chance on Saturday night.

Bottom line faster cars behind slower cars equals excitement in all divisions...

 

Both ***** and ***** are dead on!! I was just giving my input based on a fans perspective or i shoild day a member of the ocfs community for 37 yrs!! My childhood , teen years pre adulthood and adulthood are tied to ocfs and im a 3rd generation family member to have ties to that track in one way or another. We all know its gone down hill tremendously over the years. The best thing that place could do is run a meeting every other week for 2 months during the off season to put together a plan based off the whole track families thoughts and ideas....lol that being anyone who is involved in the racing season period!!!

 

 

Posted on 9/23:

 

This should be put in the Times Herald Record! Very good son.

 

I go in the drive-in because the bleachers are so beat up. They painted them, but never "primed" them so the paint chips off and then you got those nails sticking up. Also, have been hit with rocks a few times. I'm just glad I didn't get hurt. So fencing is a problem area too by the bleachers. It's really nice to go to a track that has great seating, good reasonable food and sound.

 

Now if the ocfs management would read this and implement a meeting for all to attend things might start to head for the better!!!

 

Shorten the track

 

Ok time for me to chime in... The place still has hope but needs help quick before it's to late!!! Need to lower admission price a few bucks that would get some more people there and would actually make more money then having empty stands. Maxwell is a very big thorn in the attendance, who can afford to bring there family on a (weekly) basis and fork out $30-$40 to get in and another $25-$35 to eat, its not like its a baseball game that your attending once or twice a year. And maybe even some hand outs of tickets at local schools or even schools in other counties. I work in Rockland County and the last few weeks I was telling people about the eve of destruction, I was amazed on how many people only a half hr away from the track did not even know that a race track even existed that close to home!! But I guess the most important thing Would be 1st to get the track fixed in order to keep the old and new fans if any, no one wants to watch 30 laps of single file train racing!!! * (Handicapping system doesn't help much either)*

 

Everything else aside, if on the Friday of Eastern States (or any day for that matter), any car comes back into the pit area with a flat tire, there should be hell to pay. Let them litter the front stretch with twisted metal, nails and shards of other materials but there should be absolutely no reason to subject the rest of the racing surface to this nonsense as well. After the season is over? Maybe. But not a month before one of dirt racing's crown jewel events.

 

*****, you have NO reason to be sorry for what you said! It's the damn truth! You can only bite your tongue so long til it falls off and that's what they want. They want your tongue to fall off so they don't have to hear you which is why you get the piss poor responses to your questions of track maintenance! Now i know i don't race but i'm a fan of "racing"! OCFS used to be the place to be for racing, now you can hear the whistle of the choo choo train every Saturday! IF they want people back i have a few suggestions: A) run small blocks every week,  bring back pro stocks, C) do some damn track maintenance and don't tell your fans (Ken Sands) that if they have a problem they can volunteer to help! NOONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT BS WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE PAID TO WORK FOR YOU! Just drivin the fans away buddy, just driving them away! D) Go back to kids under 12 free! That $1 charge for kids under 12 was a smack to the face of your fans! What are you possibly making $20 a week? Seriously! E) Bring back the promotions! Have a "Pack the stands night" $2 admission to get the fans in the door and hope they come back, Vets $5 on Memorial Day, etc. F) GET RID OF Maxwell and/or get other food there! The food is more expensive and more disguisting every yr! What happened to the Pizza stands and everything else? A Monopoly on food is no good anywhere! G) NOONE IS GOING TO PAY FOR RACED THAT END AT 9PM! PUT A SHOW ON FOR THE FANDS FOR F*CK'S SAKE! H) STOP PUTTING BIG SHOWS ON DURING THE FAIR! It's a pain in the ass walking through that bs "fair" to get to the races and it's a hassle to get tickets! No race fans want to go to the fair and you're not getting fair people into the races! I) MOVE PITS OUTSIDE OR DIG THEM DOWN A COUPLE FEET OR HAVE STACKERS PARK OUTSIDE! Nothing like paying for a race you can't even see and finally (for now) do some maintenance in the sands! The covered section is collapsing, the bleachers are cracking and uneven, and the generator...... Enough said! End of rant for now

 

 

The racing the first 3 or 4 weeks of this season was amazing!! Watching Clinton and Timmy hammer thru the field on the high side was one of the best shows I have seen in many years! HOWEVER!!! ONCE the outlaws came to town..POOF!!! The track went to shit... gee I wonder why???? We all know the Outlaws complained about the track and its prep the last time they were here.. Some said they would never return. BANG!! OCFS gets an Outlaw show, early- mid May.. HOLY CRAP .. the track was awesome before that weekend.. The Outlaws came and went..and so did the track prep and surface.. 'NUFF SAID!!

 

Maybe If they used those machines in the infield that are just pushed to the side in turn 1-2 , and actually used them all week like a few race tracks I've seen out here in Ohio the racing would maybe be better. Every week its the same. Its like saturday is the only day they even have anybody from the staff show up on the fairgrounds. The place would be a lot better if they just took the time and took care of what they have in front of them! I love walking through those gates every saturday its a special place for my family and I! In no way am i being negative towards OCFS at all! They will get car counts and possibly fans back if they first take care of the track and make It a little bette for racing.

 

 

I love OCFS!!! I just can't in my heart say anything negative about it. I started going there as a very young child in the early 1960's, and I'm 55 now. On Sept 14, I attended the races at OCFS, for the first time in almost 6 years, because I live in Kentucky now. Our society has lost a lot of it's innocence, but I surely don't want to lose this racing facility, or it's great history. I think of past winners such as Donnie Beesmer; Joey Lawrence, Charlie Shire, Buzzie, Wanye, Schneider, and of course Brett Hearn. Joe Winne died at the track, he loved so much to compete at. The night of Sept 14; watching Tommy Meier, Jerry Higbe, and Mike Ruggerio race, made me feel like I was back in time again, and at the OCFS, that is my little heaven on earth.

 

 Listen, this is my suggestion. There's a lot of drivers at OCFS, from the strictly stocks to the big block modifieds. Maybe; you all can get together with management, and have a sit down to straighten out the follow the leader racing. Communication is where it's at. Look at the racing at Accord Speedway; so by god, it's possible to iron out some of the problems at OCFS, too. The power of positive thinking, that is where it's at my fellow race fans, and racecar drivers. I say this with all due respect, and don't mean to offend anyone.

 

every track has it's problems i wass at accord and saw a bb spin 3 times in 3 laps now i always thought that that would get you a black flag but i guess not and may i say in accords behalf the owners kill themselves to put on a good show for the people as does mike gurda. but as the asying goes you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit

 

yes **** i too love OCFS but they need to do something before they lose everything. And when someone says something and you get a response of "maybe you can VOLUNTEER to help" as a fan who comes almost every week and pays to be there that is very disheartening to hear and is a kick in the teeth in my opinion. Back in the 90's they had that HUGE pack truck that was all over the racing world's news. The track was worked on alot more and was in great shape. O and they had people there too! Now, it's sad watching the numbers of fans and drivers continue to go down the tubes. And like ***** ***** said do away with the head's up qualifying and go back to the handicap system. Other tracks have and the racing has been phenomenal! You also have to get rid of the favoritism there too. I've seen more people get favoritism this yr than i have in yrs and you can't tell me i'm wrong or i'm the only one who sees it. When you have the pt leader starting in the 2nd row night in and night out when the #2 guy in pts starts in 4throw or back is not fair. Start the faster guys in the back and put a show on! The only problem with this is when you only have one groove and don't water the top even the fast guys can't come through

 

Make track a little. Smaller. Pits out side 3&4.the place is just. So fast & narrow hurts the passing . Smaller might help passing & might get cars from other short tracks , I just feel it would b better racing. Try something. Please!!! It's a great place ,

Note:  It was finally said that t he pit area will NOT be moved outside of 3 &4, but will remain inside the track.   There are some that think smaller would be better (like me), but others think it should stay big and too fast, which takes away passing, especially with the rules of the day. Sorry!

 

yes ****, I deleted my comment. After rereading I realized it had been said many times over the years and here we are saying it all again. There is an answer.. somewhere.. The oldest or one of the Oldest Tracks in the country deserves better than this. Mike is doing, in my opinion what he can. It isn't cheap to put on a show anywhere these days, and from what little I've seen , he's done ok.. could be better, but give him his pat on the back.. it's still open & running. We've all heard the stories of Stewart , Bergen, etc. etc. wanting to buy the track and move it forward. I'm not sure there's any fact behind those conversations, but wouldn't that be interesting. A racer owning, running and promoting OCFS.. One can only dream. I too remember the nights when I was younger, when the only venue in Orange County that could repeatedly draw hundreds of people on any given Saturday night, was OCFS. So like Tom, keep spreading the news around wherever we go about OCFS and what happens here, and maybe, just maybe the next chapter will reveal itself and we can all get back to just good ole Sat night racing. Just adding my 2 cents to this. I never could keep my opinions to myself..

 

 

Posted on 9/24:

 

OCFS really needs someone who appreciates history and try to restore the old girl to glory days....would be nice to have a real veteran racetrack owner(howie commander)to try and run it...maybe he can work magic

 

 

I can really say that no one is bashing OCFS on here, We all are looking for an answer to why the track is in Bad shape and Why aren't they doing something about it.

 

 

Posted on 9/25:

 

Having gone to OCFS since ESW of 84, having the same reserved seat since 86, I too am saddened by the decline of cars, fans, enthusiasm, etc. I, like Noah, will continue to go until I die, or the track does. Hopefully, it will be me, first. I think the biggest problems in the decline of OC came at the former management after Jay Castimore that took every positive suggestion made to them with a look of disdain, and told everyone: "You don't like it, go somewhere else!!!" A shame that many people,(fans, racers, sponsors), did just that. Don't think OCFS has ever recovered from that.

 

that would require several posts. We all love this track, we don't want to see it go by the wayside. We are VERY PASSIONATE about it. Let's keep this thread going!!

 

I just read that the ****** team came down to race in the race for 4cyl endure race, this past week and the race was to pay $1000.00 to the winner, Well the ****** team won and he started dead last against 54 cars and still won, Only to get $300.00, These are the things that is hurting the racing at OCFS. Am not bashing anyone but this is why people have stop coming to this great track, My 2 cents.

 

 

Note:  There’s more being said on this, but I figured I’ve posted enough.

 

 

 

From Jayski:

http://www.jayski.com/

 

Could Truex go to Gibbs? Will NAPA return?

 #56-Martin Truex, Jr., an innocent victim in this whole thing, is handling things with class. But he points out that he now has to look out for himself, and that means making some quick decisions about 2014. Immediately after NAPA's decision to pull the plug on the Waltrip-Truex team, there were hopes that NAPA, perhaps with Truex, might move to another stock car operation and continue its sports marketing here. NAPA is one of this sport's long-time sponsors. However Sunday here a man close to the situation said NAPA has now decided simply to drop out of NASCAR racing. If so, that could be a devastating blow; the sanctioning body itself just lost Nationwide as sponsor of its Triple-A tour (following the 2014 season). Where Truex might land, if he does move on? Well, Toyota's Joe Gibbs has been looking to fill a long-proposed fourth Cup team slot; Gibbs tried to get Kurt Busch earlier this year. And Richard Childress is still filling out his 2014 roster. Truex says simply "life moves on. I've moved on from it.(MikeMulhern.net)

BUT: According to a tweet by NASCAR.com's Kenny Bruce, "J.D. Gibbs did everything but rule out 4th Cup team for JGR. 'Going from 2 to 3 was so difficult. ... I don't see it.' ".

AND: Sporting News' Bob Pockrass reports, "Joe [Gibbs] said he's devoted to Toyota & MWR & supports them, said he has no idea what's happening and had no talks [about] 4th team w/NAPA-Truex"(9-23-2013)

 

UPDATE:

Waltrip ... said that if Truex could find another deal, he wouldn't hold him back even though two years remain on his contract. Right now, there's only one other real deal out there  the Furniture Row Racing #78 car. That team is self-funded by Barney Visser, who owns the furniture chain. Furniture Row general manager Joe Garone said he was interested in Truex, and he likely could wait a while for Truex to make a decision. The organization likely would go with a young driver if not Truex, meaning all those drivers probably would be available well into November before having to make a commitment for 2014. The big "if" is whether NAPA will return and sponsor another Cup team. NAPA likes to have a car for the full season but several sources in the garage said the $16 million that NAPA is reportedly paying likely includes a hefty Chase bonus and might be too low to garner a full season with other organizations. Team owner Richard Childress said he wasn't going to call NAPA, but he could start a fourth team if there is interest. "You're always interested, but we're going to see what shakes down here with those guys," he said. "I hope NAPA stays in the sport. I really hate it for Martin. I'm sure they'll see the value in our sport and hopefully stay in with whomever. We're not going to beat their door down. We can do a fourth team. I don't believe in going out and chasing somebody in a bad situation. Let them make their decision."

Chip Ganassi had no comment on the possibility of pursuing Truex, while Roger Penske said he is set with his two Cup teams for next year. "Martin's one of the good young drivers here," Penske said. "We're committed (to) two cars next year. We have plenty of drivers. What we need to do is stay focused. & At this point, I don't see us going with Truex or NAPA."(Sporting News)(9-23-2013)

 

 

5-Hour Energy still undecided on commitment to MWR:

Michael Waltrip Racing is still seeking a sponsorship boost from 5-Hour Energy. The president of the energy shot company refused Sunday to give a firm commitment that 5-Hour Energy would remain with MWR and sponsor Clint Bowyer's car in 2014. "We'll see how the year plays out," company president Scott Henderson said Sunday at New Hampshire. Michael Waltrip said Friday he expected 5-Hour Energy to remain with MWR. But Henderson, who had a friendly chat with Bowyer before the race, made it seem like no decision was made. "There's a lot of talk about integrity," he said. "When the guy who's in charge can say, 'I can do whatever I want and I'm going to do it and I just did,' I wonder about integrity. I want to make sure we can win in this sport, OK?" He then walked off. It was unclear if he was referring to Brian France, who said last week as NASCAR chairman he had the authority to expand the Chase field to 13 drivers to accommodate Jeff Gordon. France also lectured the drivers about restoring credibility and integrity to NASCAR following the Richmond debacle.(Associated Press)(9-23-2013)

 

Penske says no deals made at Richmond:

Roger Penske was set to surrender his usual spot on the spotter stand for a seat in a suite. It's one concession from the fallout of the Richmond scandal. But Penske, back at a NASCAR track for the first time since the sport's big embarrassment, insisted his team was in the clear and knew nothing about a deal with Front Row Motorsports to get #22-Joey Logano into the Chase. "We didn't do anything, quite obviously," Penske said Sunday at New Hampshire. "When I heard the crew chief on whatever car it was made all this big noise, we didn't have any deal at all. That's how people role play stuff in NASCAR. I think at the end of the day, it worked out for everybody and we're moving on." Penske said he had only watched one race at a NASCAR track from a spot other than the spotter stand. "I'm going to find a nice spot in the suite," he said, "or maybe I'll stay home and watch on TV."

Penske has plenty on his plate besides dealing with NASCAR's penalties and hoping Logano can rebound from his 12th-place spot in the Chase to work his way into contention. His IndyCar Series team signed former Indianapolis 500 winner Juan Pablo Montoya to mark an open-wheel return and he's trying to find a Cup ride in 2014 for Sam Hornish Jr. Hornish is closing in on a championship in the Nationwide Series but his status for next season is up in the air. With Logano and defending champion Brad Keselowski locked into the two Penske Cup seats, there's no room at Penske in the top series for Hornish, who has made 93 career Nationwide starts for Penske and has run 130 Cup races for him since 2007. Penske said he's yet to make a decision on Hornish's future. "There have been other teams that have contacted him," he said. "I just told him, `Hey, take a good look and see what's out there.' That's what we're doing right now." Penske ruled out any interest in Martin Truex Jr. or expanding his Cup team or Nationwide teams beyond two cars each.(Associated Press)(9-22-2013)

 

 

Quicken Loans heads to RCR in 2014:

Detroit-based Quicken Loans, the nation's largest online home lender and country's third largest mortgage originator, announced it will join Richard Childress Racing (RCR) for the 2014 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series season and serve as the primary sponsor of Ryan Newman's #31 Chevrolet SS for 12 races and associate sponsor for all remaining races. The move continues a strong partnership between Quicken Loans and Newman, whom they first sponsored in 2012. "Ryan has shown that he is not only an incredible race car driver, but also someone with great integrity and class," said Jay Farner, President and Chief Marketing Officer of Quicken Loans. "The way Ryan has handled some very tough situations this year, while also continuing to ignore the noise and perform at a high-level, made our decision to stick with him a no-brainer. He embodies what we stand for each and every day."

"Quicken Loans has been an integral member of my team and I am very excited to have them join me at Richard Childress Racing, as we continue to build on what has been a fantastic partnership," Newman said. "My relationship with Quicken Loans goes beyond driving their car. I've gotten to know them and their business, becoming friends with them in the process. As they know, I will do my very best to perform on and off the track next year and well beyond."

Quicken Loans will remain as the primary sponsor of Newman's #39 Chevrolet fielded by Stewart-Haas Racing for the remainder of the 2013 Sprint Cup Series season. Newman currently sits ninth in the Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup.(RCR)(9-25-2013)

 

 

Brian Scott to Make Sprint Cup Series Debut at CMS:

Richard Childress Racing driver Brian Scott will make his first NASCAR Sprint Cup Series start at Charlotte Motor Speedway on Saturday, Oct. 12. Shore Lodge will serve as the primary sponsor when the Boise, Idaho-native pilots the #33 Shore Lodge Chevrolet SS in the 500-mile event. "I'm really looking forward to making my Sprint Cup Series debut at Charlotte Motor Speedway," Scott said. "It's something I've dreamed about since I got into racing. I really like the track and it will be really cool to do that in front of the NASCAR home crowd. It's a great opportunity, I'm so thankful to everyone at Shore Lodge and Richard Childress Racing for putting this together and giving me the chance to compete against the greatest drivers in our sport." It will be a busy weekend at Charlotte Motor Speedway for Scott as he will be running double duty starting with the 300-mile NASCAR Nationwide Series event the prior evening. He has seven Nationwide Series starts at the 1.5 mile quad-oval, with one top-five and three top-10 finishes. Scott also has two NASCAR Camping World Truck Series starts at the track. "Brian has been doing great with us this year in the Nationwide Series and it's always good to see young talent coming up in our sport," said Richard Childress, president and CEO of Richard Childress Racing. "He's shown a good feel for how to race our cars and that he's qualified to try his hand in the Sprint Cup Series. We're looking forward to having him in that race." Scott joined the RCR Nationwide Series stable in 2013 as driver of the #2 Chevrolet Camaro and currently sits seventh in series championship standings with one pole award, three top-five and 12 top-10 finishes.(RCR)(9-24-2013)

 

 

Valvoline returns to sponsor Hendrick teams:

Valvoline, a leading marketer, distributor and producer of quality branded automotive and industrial products and services, will be reunited with Hendrick Motorsports after finalizing a multi-year sponsorship agreement that will kick off next season. The Official Lubricants Partner of Hendrick Motorsports beginning in 2014, the Valvoline brand will be featured as a major associate sponsor of the team’s full stable of Chevrolet SS race cars through the 2017 NASCAR campaign. The company will utilize Sprint Cup Series drivers #5-Kasey Kahne, #24-Jeff Gordon, #48-Jimmie Johnson and #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr. as spokespeople to promote Valvoline premium motor oil products and services. In addition, Valvoline will be the preferred oil poured by Hendrick Motorsports sister company, Hendrick Automotive Group, which operates 87 auto dealerships across the United States. The dealerships also will use Valvoline professional series, a line of fuel system preventive maintenance products that increase fuel economy and drivability, and Valvoline antifreeze. Both product lines contain patented technology that provides exceptional performance. Beginning in 2014, Hendrick Motorsports will use Valvoline products in its Chevrolet R-07 racing engines in the elite Sprint Cup Series. Valvoline was a partner of the team from 1993-95, supplying lubricant technology that contributed to the organization’s first Cup championship with Gordon.(Hendrick Motorsports), Valvoline will replace Quaker State Oil at HMS. No word how this affects Valvoline's sponsorship of Roush Fenway Racing(9-24-2013)

 

 

Kurt Busch gets a car number:

A coincidence? A subliminal message? Or perhaps just a number that was available? Whatever the case, sources confirmed to The Charlotte Observer on Monday night that Kurt Busch will drive the #41 Chevy next season, which will be his first with Stewart-Haas Racing. Busch's number turns out to be the opposite of that of team co-owner Tony Stewart, who drives the #14. Also driving for SHR next season: Kevin Harvick in the #4 and Danica Patrick in the #10.(Charlotte Observer)(9-24-2013)

 

 

Get Well Steve Byrnes:

RaceHub co-host/longtime NASCAR on Fox personality Steve Byrnes will take a medical leave of absence for the remainder of the 2013 NASCAR season, effective immediately. Adam Alexander, one of the show's original hosts, will fill in for Byrnes alongside Danielle Trotta. Any updates on Byrnes will come at the discretion of the family.(Fox Sports)(9-23-2013)

 

 

 

 

From Track Forum:

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/forum.php

 

Why is Football dictating our schedule?

 

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?180402-Why-is-Football-dictating-our-schedule

 

Note:  When I copied the above, on Monday afternoon, there have already been 110 postings on this subject.

 

 

 

 

 

Former OVRP Dirt Oval racers:

 

Jacob Hendershot was 24th in the 270 feature at Lindas.

 

Danny Buccafusca was 20th at Selinsgrove in the Senior Slingshot feature.

 

Tyler Dippel was a DNQ in the 50 lap Modified race at Fonda on Saturday, and a DQ in the Sportsman feature.  On Sunday he was 21st in the 100 lap Modified feature.

Note:  I find it quite remarkable that the DQ at Fonda has generated 6 pages of comments on the DTD’s forum.

 

Hunter Bates had a 7th and 3rd in the 50 lap Modified features and a 19th in the Late Model feature at Devil’s Bowl.

 

Nick Pecko was 11th in the RoC Asphalt race at Lancaster.

 

Ben Whitaker was 16th in the Late Model feature at Susquehanna.

 

Anthony Perrego was 3rd, and Danny Creeden 9th in the RoC race at Accord, while Tyler Dippel and Andrew Reeves were DNQ’s. 

Brad Szulewski was 6th, Mike Traver 9th and Clinton Mills 25th in the Sportsman feature.  Mills was in the 44 usually driven by Brian Krummel.

Tyler Pirone was 17th and Wyatt Clark 19th in the Slingshot feature.

 

Josh Pieniazek was 23rd in the ESS feature at Fonda.

 

Justin Grosz was a DNS in the USAC 4 Crown Midget race at Eldora.

 

As you can see, with the season getting towards its end, the names have fallen off.  Looks like only 15 names this week.

 

 

 

 

From the AARN:

http://www.aarn.com/

 

 

Lenny Sammons:

 

He writes about how New Hampshire would like to add lights and have their July races at night, rather than during the heat of the day.  There are some things to overcome, such as when Bob Bahre, the builder of the track, and former owner, in order to satisfy those that were against the track in the first place, said there would be no concerts, drag racing or NIGHT racing, at the track.  The Modified race would be moved to Friday night, but there are a couple of tracks that already run the asphalt Modifieds on Fridays.  Even if approved, general manager Jerry Gappens doubts the night racing would happen in 2014.

 

Ernie Saxton:

 

Ernie makes mention of what Super Bowl tickets will cost for Super Bowl XLVIII – can you say $2,600.00 for club level in the mezzanine, with access to indoor restaurants.  Compare them to the $1,250.00 for Super Bowl XLVII that was held in New Orleans.

 

Note:  You notice how the “Blue collar” worker has been eliminated as an attending fan, today?

Ernie also tells us of a Shannon Wiggins, 44, who was arrested recently.  His crimes:  While working as a security officer at the Daytona, Florida Speedway, he stole over $100,000.00 worth of NASCAR gear from souvenir trailers.  Oh, yes, he was employed as a corrections officer at Tomoka State Prison.

 

Earl Krause:

 

Us is his usual, Earl writes about Wall Stadium in his featured columns.  This past week he tells us of how Jonathan Mondato won the Modified race, but was DQ’d because the RR tire he had on his TQ wasn’t bought from the track.  One number difference in what is logged in at the track and what was on the car.  A letter of protest on the outcome of the feature has been sent to the track by the race team.

Note:  Here again we see how tracks get involved with getting more and more of the racers monies.  It, to me, is a shame.

 

Jo Anne and Don Davies:

 

They tell us that Mike Sowle will be co-promoting Glen Ridge in 2014.  He’ll be co-promoting with current promoter Pete Demitrasek.  Up-dates have already started. 

 

Note:  If everything goes through, it looks like the track would run on Sunday nights and would be DIRTcar sanctioned.   I’m pretty sure that I’ve read that already there seem to be some disagreements between the two as to who will do what and other things, so I guess time will tell on this one!

 

 

 

 

Barry Angstadt:

 

Barry makes mention of a new (wingless) 600 Micro Sprint being made by Xcel 600 Modified creator Doug Borger – the Xcel 600 Micro-Sprint.

The car will be a little different, with them being four-coil cars and with a “cross over rear leaf suspension system”.  Another feature will be the tail tank which will be similar to the tail tanks that Sammy Swindell has on his Midget, which I imagine you’ve seen at the recent Chili Bowls.

The cars will be a bit wider in the cockpit area, too, so the “bigger” guys can be more comfortable.  A “Roller”, “with all the good stuff on it” will cost $9,500.00  Even though Doug is making these cars for the Wingless 600 racing, there will be wing mounting sockets on top of the cage.  Plans are for Borger to run the car at Kutztown and Hamlin in 2014.  At Hamlin, he’ll have Bobby Butler in the Borger House Car, with the hope of getting the Hamlin championship.

Borger says he will not be in the business of making 270 Micro Sprints.  As for the Xcel 600 Modifieds – now worries – Borger will continue to turn those out, as well.  Next year, the 600 Modified Tour will pay $450.00 to win, whereas it has been $300.00 this past season.

 

 

 

Tickets went on sale yesterday, Wednesday, September 25th for the two nights of indoor TQ racing to be held in Trenton, NJ at the Sun National Bank Center, on February 7th and 8th.  Slingshots will appear on Friday, while Champ Karts will be there on Saturday night.

Prices:  Front row:  $30.00  Lower Level reserved:  $25.00  General admission, each night is $20.00, with kids being charged $5.00 for a general admission ticket.

After 10:00 AM on Wednesday, tickets will be available online at:  www.comcastixcom , by phone at:  1-800-298-4200 or at the Sun National Bank Office.  Additional info can be had by going to www.arn.com or calling 609-888-3618.

 

 

This Week

In AARN:

 

New .45 Mile Oval Track Planned

For Bridgeport Speedway

 

One More Time:

Hirschman Wins RoC Series Race,

This Time At Lancaster

 

Lynch Suspended

From World Racing Group

For Lernerville Pit Crew Riot

 

Glen Ridge’s New Promoter Sowle

Seeks Sunday Night, DIRTcar Sanction

 

Szegedy Ends NASCAR WMT Win Drought

With NHISScore

 

Jackie Brown, Jr. Is Accord’s

King Of The Catskills

 

Friesen Flies To Fonda 100

Mod Season Closer Triumph

 

Delayed Winchester 200

Goes To J.T. Spence

 

Chris Windom Claims Two Of Eldora’s

USAC ‘Four Crowns’

 

Kenseth, Busch, JGRToyotas

On A Roll In NASCAR Sprint Cup

 

Note:  I sure hope that track planned for Bridgeport - .45/mile is an accurate measurement and not like the supposed ¼ mile track that was supposed to be put inside the 5/8 hard clay at OCFS!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Press releases:

 

NEWS FROM                                                                                                              

Orange County Fair Speedway                                                                                   

239 Wisner Avenue                                                                                                     

Middletown, NY10940 

 

CONTACT

Mike Gurda

845-342-2573

 

EXCITEMENT ABOUNDS FOR 52nd ANNIVERSARY

EASTERN STATES WEEKEND

Modifieds, 358 Modifieds, Sportsman, 305 Sprint Cars, and Street Stocks in three days of nonstop racing action

 

MIDDLETOWN, NY (September 22)……..It’s just a little over a month away and excitement is already building for the 52nd Annual Eastern States Weekend, October 25-27, 2013 at the historic Orange County Fair Speedway in Middletown, New York. But the weekend’s headline race remains the Eastern States 200 Presented by Arkel Motors and Dupree & Monroe PC, the oldest consecutively-run championship event for dirt track Modified stock cars in the country.

 

Activity actually begins a day earlier: At 12:00 noon on Thursday, October 24 the pits open to competitors for hauler parking and inspections. Later, between 2:00 pm and 10:00 pm, the grounds will open for early arriving campers.

 

Racing begins on Friday, October 25. The Fairgrounds and pits open at 10:00 am, with the car inspection beginning at 12:30 pm and spectator gates at 2:00 pm. Following car inspections, drivers meeting, and draw, on-track practice for time trials for the Modified and Sportsman division, begins at 4:00 pm. After time trials are complete, Sportsman heats precede Modified heats, Sportsman consolation races, and the Modified Dash for Cash. 

 

Friday’s Sportsman 50-lap feature race caps off the evening.

 

Saturday, October 26 the racing is virtually non-stop with the Small Block Modified and 305 Sprint Cars the featured divisions. The Fairgrounds and pits open at 8:00 am with the spectator gates at 11:00 am. The drivers meeting and draw are at 12:30 pm followed by hot laps for the Small Block Modifieds and 305 Sprint Cars.

 

After 305 Sprint Car timed hot laps and the Small Block Modified Time Trials, qualifying heat and consolation races for the two divisions will be run. In addition, the Modifieds will have a hot lap session.

 

The first feature race of the day will be the 25-lap 305 Sprint Car main, and the n the headline 100-lap Small Block Modified championship race.

 

All this leads to the Sunday, October 27 finale, the 52nd Annual Modified Eastern States 200 Presented by Arkel Motors and Dupree & Monroe PC Championship race. Following the Fairgrounds and pits opening at 8:00 am, spectator gates swing open at 9:00 am. Activities begin at 9:30 am with the annual Pit Party when all fans are invited to join the racers along the track’s historic homestretch. Cars from all Orange County ’s racing divisions will be on display, and drivers will be on hand to greet fans and sign autographs.  

 

Following the Pit Party, racing gets underway with hot laps and qualifying heat and consolation races for the Street Stocks and last chance Modified consolation races.  Next up will be the 25-lap Street Stock championship race. And the n it’s time for trackside ceremonies, driver introductions, and the headline Modified Eastern States 200 Presented by Arkel Motors and Dupree & Monroe PC with the green flag set to wave at 2:00 pm.

 

Advance tickets, camping, and parking permits are available at the Speedway Office during regular business hours, or credit card sales (Visa and MasterCard) by calling 845-342-2573. Additional information can be found at the official Orange County Fair Speedway website, www.orangecountyfairspeedway.net.

 

Note:  No mention of the Vintage cars being in action – yet.

 

 

News from the Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc.-VP Racing Fuels Short Track SuperNationals – ‘The Working Man’s Race’

Media Contact: Brett Deyo – Deyo99H@aol.com or 845.728.2781

For Immediate Release/September 25, 2013

Best Of The Working Men: Short-Track Ace Mike Ricci, Accord Speedway Regular, Enters 2013 Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc.-VP Racing Fuels Short Track SuperNationals With Best Five-Year Record; 187 Drivers Have Attempted “Working Man’s Race” Since 2006; Eight Drivers Boast Perfect Short Track SuperNationals Attendance

KIRKWOOD, NY – On Friday-Saturday, Oct. 11-12, the ‘Working Man’s Race’ celebrates its sixth edition at Five Mile Point Speedway.

Over the first five Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc.-VP Racing Fuels Short Track SuperNationals events, a true “working man” short-track racer has assembled a solid record. Full five-year Short Track SuperNationals point standings were compiled by racing official/statistician Doug Zupan. Mike Ricci, a regular competitor at N.Y.’s Accord Speedway, won the inaugural event and tops a list that includes 187 drivers who have attempted to qualify for the SuperNationals since its inaugural running in 2006.

In Oct. ’06, when the SuperNationals event was first contested at Afton (N.Y.) Speedway, Ricci drove Jimmy Winchell’s No. 17 to victory. The Tillson, N.Y., driver is the only driver to have started all five main events, winning once (’06), finishing second once (’09), eighth once (’08) and 11th twice, once in ’09 and last year in a stirring drive from 32nd starting position. Ricci has driven for Winchell, Jeff Mastrocola and Tony Kawalchuk at the SuperNationals to post those numbers.

Ricci, an Accord Speedway Modified feature winner this year, plans to enter the ’13 SuperNationals driving the No. 831 fielded by his nephew Jimmy Wells.

Brian Weaver of Windsor, N.Y., (best finish of third twice – ’06 and ’12 and three top-five finishes in five attempts); Joey Grammes of Lehighton, Pa., (best finish of fourth – ’06 and four top-five finishes in five attempts); defending event winner Danny Tyler of Cottekill, N.Y. (top-five finishes in each of the last three years, with four attempts); and legendary Billy Pauch of Frenchtown, N.J. (fourth and third, respectively, in the last two editions with four attempts) complete the top five in the standings.

Utilizing a point system that awards 60 markers to a winner and five to drivers failing to qualify, the standings are as follows: Ricci (230), Weaver (195), Grammes (191), Tyler (169) and Pauch Sr. (145).

Weaver, Grammes and Pauch Sr. each started four of the five main events. Tyler is the only driver ranked inside the top-five with three feature starts. Tyler missed qualifying for the main event in ’09 and did not attempt the event in ‘06.

All of the drivers ranked in the top five – Ricci, Weaver, Grammes, Tyler and Pauch Sr. – have set plans to participate in the ’13 Short Track SuperNationals, headlined by a 50-lap Modified main event paying $5,000-plus to win and $455 to take the green flag on Saturday (Oct. 12) of the weekend. Bonuses, contingencies and special awards have climbed to $10,000 for the special event.

Eight drivers have participated in all five Short Track SuperNationals events: Ricci, Weaver, Grammes, Shaun Walker of Masonville, N.Y., Bobby Varin of Sharon Springs, N.Y., (second in last year’s event), Five Mile Point 2013 champion Mike Colsten of Binghamton, N.Y., Dan Hineline of Lake Ariel, Pa., and Glenn Knapp of Johnson City, N.Y.

Each of the “perfect attendance” drivers is expected to extend their record at this year’s event.

Twelve drivers have entered four of the five SuperNationals main events. Complete five-year SuperNationals points have been posted on the BD Motorsports Media website at www.bdmotorsportsmedia.com.

Saturday’s (Oct. 12) program includes the Modified 50-lap event plus Race of Champions Street Stocks (25 laps) and Four Cylinders (18 laps). There is a rain date of Sunday (Oct. 13) in place.

On Saturday, pit gates open at 2 p.m., with grandstand gates swinging open at 3 p.m. RoC Street Stock and Four Cylinder hot laps get underway at 4 p.m., with their qualifying set to start at 4:45 p.m.  Modifieds hit the track at 5:45 p.m. with hot laps and qualifying at 6:30 p.m.

Fans attending the Saturday portion have the option of purchasing a ‘Family Five Pack’ for just $45 to include two Adult tickets, three Senior or Student tickets, five hot dogs and five sodas.

Purchased individually, Adult tickets sell for $19. Seniors (ages 62 and up) and Students (ages 13-17) pay $15. Kids 12 and under are admitted FREE. Pit admission is $30 with any track or series license and $35 without.

For the first time since the inaugural SuperNationals in 2006, there will be a full Friday night racing program this year. On Friday (Oct. 11), the Sportsman will headline a three-division show with a 30-lap event paying $1,500 to the winner. Open and Crate 602 Sportsman with steel or aluminum wheels are eligible to compete. Sail panels are permitted.

IMCA-style Modifieds, outfitted with optional sail panels, will run a 20-lap main event paying $400 to win and $100 for 10th (no entry fee). XCel 600 Modifieds complete the program with a 20-lap main event. As in previous years, Friday open practice for Modifieds will be available. Practice is set from 5-7 p.m. and between race events for those looking to shake down their equipment in advance of Saturday’s program.

On Friday night, pit gates open at 4 p.m. Grandstand gates open at 5 p.m. Modified open practice runs from 5-7 p.m. Hot laps for Sportsman, IMCA-style Modifieds and XCel 600 Modifieds begins at 7:15 p.m., with qualifying at 7:45 p.m.

Friday pricing is as follows: $12 for Adults, $10 for Seniors (ages 62 and over) and Students (ages 13-17) and Kids 12 and under are admitted FREE. Pit admission is $30 for the backstretch (Sportsman, IMCA-style Modifieds and XCel 600 Modifieds) and $20 for Modifieds practicing (turn-four pit area).

The Red Roof Inn, located on 590 Fairview Street in Johnson City, N.Y., 13790, is offering a special Short Track SuperNationals rate for Friday and Saturday nights of the event (Oct. 11-12). Standard King Rooms are available for $79.99 plus tax. Deluxe double rooms are $89.99 plus tax. To reserve a room, call the Red Roof Inn directly at 607.729.8940. When prompted, use Option 4 to speak with a Guest Services Representative directly to book the room. Mention “RACE FAN 2012” to receive the discounted rate.

Full race information has been posted on the BD Motorsports Media LLC website at www.bdmotorsportsmedia.com under the SuperNationals tab.

Event promoter Brett Deyo can be reached by e-mail at Deyo99H@aol.com or by phone at 845.728.2781. “Like” BD Motorsports Media on Facebook or follow on Twitter @BrettDeyo. Marketing opportunities and lap sponsorships are available now.  Five Mile Point Speedway is on the web at www.fivemilepointspeedway.net.

The Short Track SuperNationals is presented by Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc., VP Racing Fuels, All Fab, Dale Smith, Small Engine Fuel, American Racer/Lias Tire, Manmiller Electric, Alpine Building Supply, BFP Specialty, Behrent’s Performance Warehouse, Accord Speedway, Troyer Race Cars, Hig Fab, New Egypt Speedway, S&D Bodyline, Tonarlo’s Pizza, Shiley Fabrication, Tim Long, Penn Can Speedway ‘King of the Can’ Weekend, Crunchco Snacks, Mirabilis Cattle, S&W Awards, Bob Hilbert Sportswear, Elmo’s Auto Body, S&W Awards and more fine marketing partners.

 

 

News from Penn Can Speedway’s Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc.-VP Racing Fuels ‘King of the Can’

Media Contact: Brett Deyo – Deyo99H@aol.com or 845.728.2781

For Immediate Release/September 25, 2013

Extra Incentives Set For 14th Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc.-VP Racing Fuels ‘King of the Can’ $5,014-To-Win Event Friday, October 18 At Penn Can Speedway; Prize Packages Set For Drawing; Special Awards Adding Up

SUSQUEHANNA, PA – Competitors in the Pioneer Pole Buildings Inc.-VP Racing Fuels 14th annual ‘King of the Can’ will have plenty of extra incentives.

In addition to the $5,014 winner’s share and hefty $314 to take the green in the big-block/small-block Modified finale at Penn Can Speedway Friday, Oct. 18 (rain date: Oct. 20), there are a number of special awards and bonuses up for grabs. Modifieds headline the Friday portion of the ‘King of the Can’ event in a 50-lap main, with Crate 602 Sportsman (25 laps, $1,000 to win) and Street Stocks (25 laps, $650 to win) completing the program.

The ‘King of the Can’ is a co-promotion involving BD Motorsports Media LLC and Penn Can managers Al Wilcox and Reed Miller for the third consecutive year. Additional sponsorship support is received from Don’s Automotive Mall and Gary’s U-Pull-It.

Modified teams having attended three of the following four events and present at the ‘King of the Can’ will be eligible for two prize packages: ‘Clash at the Can’ at Penn Can Speedway Wednesday, June 13; I-88 (N.Y.) Speedway ‘Crazy 8s Special’ Wednesday, July 24; ‘Battle of the Bullring’ at Accord (N.Y.) Speedway Tuesday, August 6; and Short Track SuperNationals at Five Mile Point (N.Y.) Speedway Saturday, Oct. 12. 

Drivers satisfying the attendance requirements will included in a pair of drawings. The drawings will take place at the drivers’ meeting in public view.

The first prize package, courtesy of Shiley Fabrication in Williamstown, Pa., includes a front bumper, rear bumper, left-and right-side rubrails, left- and right-side inner jigs, left- and right-side door mounts, left- and right-side quarter mounts, front and rear roof mounts, left- and right-side roof mounts, left- and right-ride nose mounts, left- and right-side rear quarter mounts and a rear deck mount (for a Teo-Pro car). Gary Shiley is the proprietor of Shiley Fabrication, which is online at www.shileyfabrication.com.

The second ‘Outer Body Kit’ package comes from S&D Bodyline in Bath, Pa. It includes right- and left-side doors and quarter panels, A-pillars and B-pillars. S&D Bodyline is operated by Don Biegley and can be found on the web at www.sdbodyline.com.

Other ‘King of the Can’ event specific awards include an American Racer tire certificate for a driver placing 11th-15th (random draw) from Lias Tire of Indiana, Pa.; a $500 credit toward the purchase of a new body from BFP Specialty in Bethel, Pa.; $100 certificates to the top-three finishers from Bob Hilbert Sportswear; a $100 credit to S&D Bodyline toward the purchase of a body; and a package of bumpers and rubrails for the ‘Hard Luck Award’ recipient from Shiley Fabrication voted upon by media members and officials.

The race winner, of course, takes home a trophy courtesy of S&W Awards in Lindley, N.Y., and a custom, lettered toilet as ‘King of the Can’ winner.

Lap money will be distributed at the ‘King of the Can’ event. Lap sponsorships are available now for $20/lap and can be secured by contacting Brett Deyo via e-mail at Deyo99H@aol.com or by phone: 845.728.2781.

Complete rules, registration forms and race information have been posted on the BD Motorsports Media website: www.bdmotorsportsmedia.com. Registration for the ’13 ‘King of the Can’ is now open for Modified competitors. Pre-entry is $15 through Oct. 12 and $20 from Oct. 12 through race day. The first 10 entries received by the BD Motorsports Media office will transfer into a draw for two FREE pit passes.

Gates open at 5:15 p.m. for the Oct. 18 program. The driver’s meeting takes place at 6:30 p.m. Hot laps begin at 6:45 p.m., with racing set for 7:15 p.m.

Grandstand general admission is $22 (Adults), $20 (Seniors ages 62 and over), $10 (Students 13-17 years old) and Kids 12 and under are FREE. Pit admission is $35.

 

Since its inception in 1999, the ‘King of the Can’ has provided memorable moments and a cross-section of winners from New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Ontario. Last year, Ringoes, N.J.’s Ryan Godown posted the first Penn Can win of his career in the 50-lapper, defeating Danny Johnson of Rochester, N.Y., as the pair diced for the win through late-race lapped traffic.

Two drivers have won the ‘King of the Can’ event more than once: Jeff Rudalavage of Olyphant, Pa. (2007 & ’02) and Brian Weaver of Windsor, N.Y. (’05 & ’99). Single-time winners include Godown, Stewart Friesen of Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ont. (’11), Kevin Bates of Lake Ariel, Pa. (’10), Duane Howard of Oley, Pa. (’08), Joey Grammes of Lehighton, Pa. (’06), the late Doug Hoffman of Allentown, Pa. (’04), Jamie Shea of South Gibson, Pa. (’03), Keith Hoffman of Whitehall, Pa. (’01) and Kirk Horton of Eldred, N.Y. (’00).

Earlier this year, in June, BD Motorsports Media LLC in conjunction with Penn Can management presented the ‘Clash at the Can’ spectacular, with Ryan Watt of Boyertown, Pa., shocking the field to win the 60-lap Race of Champions Dirt Modified Tour headliner.

Saturday’s (Oct. 19) portion of the ‘King of the Can’ is organized by Penn Can management and will include Race of Champions Sportsman, Race of Champions Street Stocks, CRSA 305 Sprint Cars, Four Cylinders, Factory Stocks and XCel 600 Modifieds.

For further information, contact Brett Deyo by phone at 845.728.2781, via e-mail at Deyo99H@aol.com or on the web at www.bdmotorsportsmedia.com.  “Like” BD Motorsports Media on Facebook or follow @BrettDeyo on Twitter.

Penn Can Speedway, a one-third-mile clay oval, is located off Interstate 81 Exit 230 in Susquehanna, Pa. (between Scranton, Pa., and Binghamton, N.Y.). The speedway GPS address is 98 State Street Susquehanna, PA 18847. Penn Can is on the web at www.penncan.com.

 

 

 

Going back, in time:

 

Well, if ’ve gone this far in this weeks column, I suppose you might have noticed that the “Histocal” section is missing.  I thought I’d drop it as part of the columns, figuring not too many are interested in what was basically Open Wheel racing news from back in the day.

 

However, for this weeks column, I’d like to go back to September 27th in 2007 and in 2008.

 

One might it hard to believe that I never got to meet Nick Fornoro, Sr. until I went to an ACOT banquet, some years ago.  I was fortunate enough to have him sit next to me during the nights activities and dinner.  After that, there were a few times that Nick would be with me or with me and Pete Kessler, or with Pete on short trips.  Both Pete and I visited Nick when he was hospitalized, a while before his passing.  Sadly, it was on September 27, 2007, when Nick left us.

 

On November 3, 2007, there was a Memorial Service for Nick.  I was rather surprised when his widow, Bette, asked me to read what family and friends had to say about Nick – not to myself, but to those that were in attendance.  I did manage to get maybe ¾ way through what was said, before I had to stop.  Later on, I was fortunate to get all that paperwork and turn get it published on the New England Tractor website, and in a condensed version for the AARN.  If you’re interested in what people thought and said about Nick, you can read it all if you go here:   http://newenglandtractor.com/racereport/ta/Nick.htm

 

A year later, to the day, another racer left us – one Paul Newman.  One has to wonder – what if he started racing earlier in life?  Time flies, doesn’t it?

 

 

 

 

 

I get emails:

 

Had this sent via the Yahoo! Race History Group, on Wednesday:

 

I thought I'd share one of the more entertaining stories that Buddy Cagle told during last weekend's Racer Reunion in Irving Texas.  Buddy recalled one rainy May day in  the late fifties as a group of drivers sat around one of the garages, Tony Bettenhausen walked in and announced "I hope I never get killed in a race car." When several of the drivers expressed surprise as such a statement,  Tony explained that when one is killed in a race car, he goes to 'the Golden Speedway.' Tony said "Do you realize all the great drivers that are already up there running 'the Golden Speedway?' Why, a man will have to run the consi for a thousand years before he can ever hope to make the feature on the Golden Speedway!"  

 

Note:  Having to run the consi, as he said would be hard, but can you imagine the starting field for the feature?

 

 

 

 

Racing video:

 

The Four Crown Nationals from Eldora.  The winner of the midget race, Rico Abreu, is, as you’ll see, a “tiny person”.  Highlights from the Midget, Sprint and Silver Crown races, with slide jobs and flips!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0QxEPmOfsw&feature=player_embedded

 

 

 

This weeks photo:

 

One of the best, Bill Schindler, left us back on September 20, 1952, while driving the Earl Beal # 2 Offy, at the Allentown Fairgrounds track in Allentown, Pa.  I’m not positive, but I think this photo was taken on that day.  Later on, on September 24, 1959, Johnny Thomson, who was in the same car, was also fatally injured at Allentown.

 

 

 

 

Music video:

 

Willie and Merle:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxzJAF1BxP4&feature=related

 

Non racing stuff:

 

Somehow, me thinks this will be the last of non racing (political) stuff that will be in my columns:

 

 

Democrats WALK OUT of Hearing With Parents of Benghazi Victims

 

http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/democrats-walk-out/

 

 

In part:  "Earlier today, an important hearing regarding the attack on Benghazi was being held by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The parents of the Benghazi heroes who died fighting to protect the US consulate were about to speak.

 

Then, in a turn of events that’s disgusting even by DC standards, most of the Democrats stood up and walked out. Apparently, they were either protesting or trying to show disrespect — either way, if there was any honor in their districts at all, this would end their careers."

 

Here’s the list of people who walked out:

 

Carolyn Maloney, NY

Danny Davis, IL

Eleanor Holmes Norton, DC

Gerald E. Connolly, VA

Jim Cooper, TN

John Tierney, MA

Mark Pocan, WI

Matt Cartwright, PA

Michelle Lujan Grisham, NM

Peter Welch, VT

Stephen Lynch, MA

Steven Horsford, NV

Tammy Duckworth, IL

Tony Cardenas, CA

William Lacy Clay, MO

 

HT to WZ and the Gateway Pundit.

 

Remember, last week John Kerry stopped the Benghazi survivors from being even questioned by congress.

 

Earlier, Obama even hid the survivors and had them change their names with threats towards their families.

 

The entire idea of the cover up is to defend Obama and Hillary so they can remain unscathed from their illegal plan to arm Syrians through Libya and their workings with radical Islamic groups.

 

Here are 6 facts that show how absurd Hillary’s handling of the entire situation was. It’s disgusting.

 

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appears to be the front runner for the Democratic nomination to run for President in 2016, despite the fact that her actions surrounding the terror attack on the Benghazi Consulate prove she shouldn’t be allowed to run a non-profit, much less a whole administration.

 

The entire Obama Administration has handled the attack poorly, but Hillary should shoulder most of the blame, due to her position and involvement.

 

The American people need only to look at her behavior before, during and after Benghazi to know how she would handle a similar crisis if she were to be elected President. If anything, we should be looking for ways to file criminal charges — not give her the most powerful political office on earth.

 

1. She blatantly lied. Hillary Clinton deliberately lied about the cause of the attack. The American people were told that the attack was the result of a spontaneous riot in protest of a little-seen Youtube video that spun out of control. Anyone could see that it was obviously a planned assault by a terrorist outfit. Yet, Hillary and other members of the administration blamed the video for over a month.

 

2. She said it didn’t “matter”. When Hillary finally found time to testify before Congress about the Benghazi attack, she claimed that her lies did not matter. Despite multiple Congressmen pointing out facts of the attack that disproved the administrations narrative, she arrogantly dismissed their questions.

 

Pressed by Senator Johnson about why she had lied, she famously exploded “what difference, at this point, does it make?” She also lied under oath in these hearings, claiming she had no foreknowledge of the security situation in Benghazi. Documents and emails obtained from the State Department, bearing her signature, prove otherwise.

 

3. Her “investigation” was a fraud. After the attack, Hillary directed the State Department to conduct an internal investigation into what went wrong. That was like having a criminal on trial act as his own prosecutor, judge and jury.

 

The fraudulent investigation discovered nothing noteworthy, mostly because it did not interview any of the survivors of the attack, nor any of the high-ranking State Department officials involved. Sticking only to interviewing mid-level and insulated employees, the investigation served only as an attempt to cover-up Hillary’s mistakes.

 

4. She could have stopped the attack. New evidence and information have revealed that the Benghazi attack could have been stopped. Numerous documents and emails show that the State Department, including Hillary Clinton, were well aware of the dangerous lack of security at the Consulate, yet they did nothing to remedy the situation.

 

Furthermore, anonymous special ops witnesses and whistleblower survivors have said that military assets were near the region and could have easily reached Benghazi in time to save lives and prevent the second attack.

 

5. She has silenced whistle blowers. The White House has censored the truth about what happened in Benghazi, helped along by the complicit mainstream media. From the beginning, all attempts to uncover the truth have been stonewalled at every turn and met with lies, half-truths, or silence.

 

Witnesses have been hidden. The few who have stepped forward claim they were threatened to remain silent. Certain members of the military who may have spoken out about Benghazi have died, disappeared, or fallen from public view in disgrace. By all appearances it seems the White House, and Hillary Clinton, are involved in a full-scale cover-up.

 

6. She had no plan for defense. It is now quite obvious that Hillary had no plan for dealing with an attack like Benghazi. From the ignoring of prior threats and attacks before 9/11 and the removal of a highly trained security force, to the denial of requests for additional security measures and the lack of communication between the State Department and the military, it is apparent that Hillary Clinton is quite incompetent when it comes to securing the interests of America and the lives of Americans serving those interests abroad.

 

Can we take the risk of expecting her to be any more competent in dealing with a similar situation as President? The answer is obvious. Keep that woman out of the White House, whatever it takes.

 

 

 

 

BREAKING: John Kerry to Sign UN Gun Control Treaty Tomorrow - Wednesday

 

http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/kerry-signing-treaty/

 

 

 

 

Joke of the week:

 

How about a couple of them, this week?

 

A Doctor was addressing a large audience in Tampa .

'The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High fat diets can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long-term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. However, there is one thing that is the most dangerous of

all and we all have eaten, or will eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?'

After several seconds of quiet, a 75-year-old

man in the front row raised his hand, and softly said,

'Wedding Cake.'

 

 

Bob, a 70-year-old, extremely wealthy widower, shows up at the Country Club with a breathtakingly beautiful and very sexy 25-year-old blonde-haired woman who knocks everyone's socks off with her youthful sex appeal and charm and who hangs over Bob's arm and listens intently to his every word. His buddies at the club are all aghast.

At the very first chance, they corner him and ask, 'Bob, how'd you get the trophy girlfriend?'

Bob replies, 'Girlfriend? She's my wife!'

They are knocked over, but continue to ask. 'So, how'd you persuade her to marry you?'

 

'I lied about my age', Bob replies.

'What, did you tell her you were only 50?'

Bob smiles and says, 'No, I told her I was 90.'

 

 

Note:   As o fnow, there will be no column next week!

 

Until the next column!

 

I can be reached, via e-mail, at:  ygordad@yahoo.com